In both Maryland and Vermont, a clinician can write a POLST order indicating "no CPR" even without patient or surrogate consent. Regulations in both states authorize the entry of a "do not attempt resuscitation" order on a POLST on the basis that CPR would be "futile" or "medically ineffective." This "no consent" option is clearly printed right on the POLST form.
California law similarly provides that while "a health care provider shall treat an individual in accordance with a POLST form," that requirement "does not apply if the POLST form requires medically ineffective health care or health care contrary to generally accepted health care standards applicable to the health care provider or institution." But unlike Maryland and Vermont, the "no consent" option is not printed on the POLST form itself.
Nevertheless, this has not prevented California providers from utilizing this option. For example, Dominican Hospital in Santa Cruz, rewrote a patient's POLST contrary to his prior expressed wishes, apparently on the ground of medical ineffectiveness. Of course, since the patient was unbefriended / unrepresented, there was little risk that such a decision would be challenged. It is unclear that clinicians would rewrite a POLST on grounds of ineffectiveness in the face of surrogate opposition.
Many states have long allowed clinicians to unilaterally refuse (surrogate-, agent-, or surrogate-requested) treatment that is "medically ineffective" or that is "contrary to generally accepted health care standards." But since there is significant uncertainty about when those standards are satisfied, clinicians have generally declined to avail themselves of such safe harbors. It is unclear, yet, whether analogous POLST safe harbors will be any more effective.
Please note that in California, a POLST form must be signed by both (1) the patient or their decision maker, and (2) a physician. CA Probate Code Section 4780. If it does not have both signatures, it is not a legally valid POLST.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Judy. That is a good distinction.
ReplyDeleteMaryland and Vermont permit the issuance of a POLST with a DNAR order on the basis of ineffectiveness - ex ante.
California does not do that. A California POLST always needs consent (patient/surrogate signature).
Instead, what California law does is excuse, on grounds of ineffectiveness, the clinician's obligation to comply with a POLST indicating CPR.
So, California has no ex ante unilateral DNAR. It just permits noncompliance with POLST at the moment a requested intervention becomes relevant.
Note though that the California excuse applies to ANY order on the POLST and not just CPR like MD and VT.
Also, it seems that an ex ante judgment could be made that an intervention would be ineffective. While an altogether new POLST could not be written, the physician could leave internal to the facility instructions for DNAR.
To get an oil change at my Maryland car dealership I have to sign a consent form, but for matters of life-and-death my doctor’s word is good enough (Maryland’s MOLST and DNR forms requires only that a doctor certify that there was a discussion). Casting no aspersions on doctors’ honesty or motivation, one would think that forms of such import would require a patient’s signature just to be on the safe side.
ReplyDeleteI have little doubt that requiring my signature would have prevented what happened to my father at a Maryland hospital (see holycrosshealth.com).
In Response to the writer, above. I agree with your comments but there is no way to reach you once one gets to holycrosshealth.com
ReplyDeleteYou have my sympathy over what happened to your Father. I also had a horrible experience with a covert DNR put into my elderly husband's chart to shorten his life to hide a mistake, an error, that the hospital and treating physician knew would not be reimbursed by Medicare and Tricare for Life.
Because of CMS and big Private Insurance Reimbursement Protocols of the past ten years, physicians/hospitals take a calculated risk in treating the elderly and rationalize that the elderly are better off dead if there is any chance that they will become "charity" patients of the hospitals.
This, of course, is against the law but the law turns its back on this worst kind of elder abuse ---which is against the law and would be treated as a crime in many States ---but, of course, is never prosecuted.
Apparently, it is just easier and more profitable for the powers that be who run the nation's hospitals to kill the very elderly to make sure they will not end up dying in their ICUs in violation of public policy goal of the 1991 Patient Self Determination Act that envisions that the elderly will die in their own residences or nursing home residences at much less expense to Medicare and it's private partners, Big Insurance. .
It is not an accident that there are NO PROCEDURAL protections against NO CPR and DNR code status being unilaterally and overtly and covertly placed in the hospital charts of the elderly on Medicare and Medicaid.
Our country has lost its soul!
ReplyDeleteI was crushed when my lover of three years left to be with another woman. I cried and sobbed every day, until it got so bad that I reached out to the Internet for help.And i saw a testimony of a spell caster who help a girl called michelle and i said let me give it a try so i contact him for help and he cast a love spell for me which i use in getting my love back and now i am a happy woman.For what you have done for me,i will not stop to share your goodness to people out there for the good work you are doing.I hope God blesses you as much as you have help me to get my Love back,visit him on oriomonspiritualtemple@yahoo.com is the only answer to your problemS
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ReplyDeleteI was crushed when my lover of three years left to be with another woman. I cried and sobbed every day, until it got so bad that I reached out to the Internet for help.And i saw a testimony of a spell caster who help a girl called michelle and i said let me give it a try so i contact him for help and he cast a love spell for me which i use in getting my love back and now i am a happy woman.For what you have done for me,i will not stop to share your goodness to people out there for the good work you are doing.I hope God blesses you as much as you have help me to get my Love back,visit him on oriomonspiritualtemple@yahoo.com is the only answer to your problemS
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i will love to share my testimony to you all the people in world i got married to my husband about 2 year ago we start having problems at home like we stop sleeping on the same bed,fighting about little things he always comes home late at night,drinking too much and sleeping with other women out side i have never love any man in my life except him. he is the father of my child and i don't want to loose him because we have worked so hard together to become what we are and have today .few month ago he now decided to live me and the kid,being a single mother can be hard sometimes and so i have nobody to turn to and i was heart broken.i called my mom and explain every thing to her,my mother told me about DR.okoro how he helped her solve the problem between her and my dad i was surprise about it because they have been without each other for three and a half years and it was like a miracle how they came back to each other. i was directed to DR. okoro on his email:okorospell@gmail.com and explain everything to him,so he promise me not to worry that he will cast a spell and make things come back to how we where so much in love again and that it was another female spirit that was controlling my husband he told me that my problem will be solved within two days if i believe i said OK So he cast a spell for me and after two days my love came back asking me to forgive him i Am so happy now. so that why i decided to share my experience with every body that have such problem contact Dr okoro the great spell caster on his email addresses okorospell@gmail.com call hem with this number +2348158270343
ReplyDeletei will love to share my testimony to you all the people in world i got married to my husband about 2 year ago we start having problems at home like we stop sleeping on the same bed,fighting about little things he always comes home late at night,drinking too much and sleeping with other women out side i have never love any man in my life except him. he is the father of my child and i don't want to loose him because we have worked so hard together to become what we are and have today .few month ago he now decided to live me and the kid,being a single mother can be hard sometimes and so i have nobody to turn to and i was heart broken.i called my mom and explain every thing to her,my mother told me about DR.okoro how he helped her solve the problem between her and my dad i was surprise about it because they have been without each other for three and a half years and it was like a miracle how they came back to each other. i was directed to DR. okoro on his email:okorospell@gmail.com and explain everything to him,so he promise me not to worry that he will cast a spell and make things come back to how we where so much in love again and that it was another female spirit that was controlling my husband he told me that my problem will be solved within two days if i believe i said OK So he cast a spell for me and after two days my love came back asking me to forgive him i Am so happy now. so that why i decided to share my experience with every body that have such problem contact Dr okoro the great spell caster on his email addresses okorospell@gmail.com call hem with this number +2348158270343
ReplyDeleteHello i am MISS DORA LAWSON,I am out here to spread this good news to the entire world on how i got my husband back.I was going crazy, mad and confuse. when my husband left me for another woman last month,But when i meet a friend that introduce me to DR ADAGBA the great messenger to the oracle that he serve,I narrated my problem to DR ADAGBA about how my ex love left me and also how i needed to get a job in a very big company.He only said to me that i have come to the right place were i will be getting my heart desire without any side effect.He told me what i need to do,After it was been done,In the next 2 days,My love called me on the phone and was saying sorry for living me before now and also in the next one week after my lovely husband called me to be pleading for forgiveness,I was called for interview in my desired company were i needed to work as the managing director..I am so happy and overwhelmed that i have to tell this to the entire world to contact DR ADAGBA at the following email address and get all your problem solve..No problem is too big for him to solve..Contact him direct on: adagbaspiritualtemple@yahoo.com and get your problems solve like me, call him via;+2348115200304
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hello to the every one on this forum ; am here to share my experience with dr oriomon about what he just did for me last week , for helping to reunited with my ex lover Mavis who broke up with me after 2 years of relationship because of his families did not like our relationship . but after Dr oriomon of oriomonspiritualtemple@gmail.com has done his wonderful work for me i was so shock when i saw Mavis calls on phone asking me to come back to him that him is ready to stay with me and beg his families to love our relationship and he actually did so and with a support from DR ORIOMON his parents that never wanted to see both of us promise to sponsor our wedding by December as we are planing now . so with this great work done for me by DR oriomon i promise not to stop telling others about his good work in my life , so if any one also need his help here i will advice you contact him to via (oriomonspiritualtemple@gmail.com) bye
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DR.ORIOMON THE GREAT MAN OF ALL SPELL CASTER
I have good news to share with the world today, i made a vow to my self that i will tell the world about Doctor Zazaz after he helped me with his spell that made my wife and i settled our difference. We where both married for years without issue, we visited different hospitals but nor could help us. i loved my wife so much and never intended to drive her out for a second woman. One day as we where both deliberating on how to solve our bareness we got a new from a radio station that Doctor Zazaz can put a stop to all problem with his spell so we called his mobile number and then emailed him for a solution and after all was done i and very glade to announce to the world that my wife had a set of twine 9 month later. Do you have problem of any kind and you think all hope is lost then you have a chance to met Doctor Zazaz today for help his email is: indiaspellcaster@hotmail.com
ReplyDeleteI’m Mercy brown by name I have a few testimony to share with you all about myself, I was in a relationship with this guy and for 3years and we were about getting married when we both have misunderstanding with each other and he ask me for a divorce and we both agreed and after 4months I head that he was having an affair with one of my closest friend and I was very upset and worried so a friend of my advice me and told me if I still love my ex and if I really want to have him back so I told her yes, and she ask me to contact Dr. Madurai the spell caster and I did although I never believe on spell so he gave me something when he was casting the spell and ask me to say my wishes on it and after the casting of the spell a receive a phone call from my ex and was ask me at which I did and now we are back together again I’m so happy and I wish not to ever have this mistake again in my life. I will also advice anyone with this kind of issue to contact him for help he is really nice on phone and always there to answer you question giving you the good advice that you need. his email is maduraitemple@yahoo.com
ReplyDeleteHello every one i want tp share with you all about this priest of the abuluspiritualtemple@gmail.com and I finally find out that he is really a truthful spell caster and so powerful and he is the most powerful spell caster that I have ever met. I wish I have met him before. and my husband have just come back to me and every thing happened just the way he had said it I am so happy that I have met with him and now I have my husband back to my self. If you all that are here have not tried him you just have to do so and get your heart desires fulfilled. Stop been doubting I have tested him and I am now a fulfilled woman to my husband and we are so happy to be together once again. You can reach this spell caster if you need help.
ReplyDeleteHello to you all here, i am Kirsten Wilson. and i here to share to you all my testimony about this man called Dr ABULU , last year i got married to my husband Wilson Jefferson and we both have a body so we were both living happily together ever since we got married until early this year when my husband traveled to Australia for business trip and he told me and kid that he will be coming in two months time and he left , it was just 2 weeks when my husband stopped calling me and the kid so i was surprise and i started to wonder what is wrong until i heard that he is with a lady there and he was even planing to marry her and push me and my child out so i reported to his family but they could not stop him this time he has send me message to live the house before he return so i was so confused and do not know what to do so a friend of my mummy directed me to this man DR ABULU of abuluspiritualtemple@gmail.com, for help and solution and i quickly rush to contact him through his mail and he told me what to do and i did it and after two days mu husband called me and started begging me to forgive and forget all that he must have done to be that he was not his self so that is how i manage to save my relationship so with this great work done for me by DR ABULU i promised to share this to the world in-case any one is there with similar problems should contact him as well for solution and i know you must be saved okay
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My name is Janet Lisa am giving thanks to Dr. Odiala for bring back my ex boyfriend back to me again. My love life has not been easy for me since 3rd of July which was my birthday and my lover never showed up to wish me happy birthday. Before my birthday i have been noticing some changes in his character. I finally find out that he was having an affair with someone else which made me really feel bad, I taught may be there was some things i was not doing right. It was that moment i decided to search the internet for some relationship solutions, And that was when the internet recommended me to Dr. Odiala And i saw so many testimony on how Dr. Odiala has help so many people in different kinds of problem, I sent him an email and tell him how my ex lover cheat on me and broke up with me. Dr. Odiala did a perfect work for me by making my lover come back to me within 48 hours and since then my relationship has been on the bright side. My boyfriend is now back to me and our relationship is in a perfect shape ask ever before. His contact info (ODIALASPELLTEMPLE4@GMAIL.COM). call him +2348077513166 his website odialaspelltemple4.webs.com. if i must say he is the best spell cast
ReplyDeleteHello I am CHIZZY PEACE ,I am out here to spreed this good news to the entire world on how I got my ex love back.I was going crazy when my love left me for another girl last month, But when i meet a friend that introduce me to DR ADAGBA the great messenger to the oracle that he serve,I narrated my problem to Prophet Osula Ogwa about how my ex love left me and also how i needed to get a job in a very big company.He only said to me that i have come to the right place were i will be getting my heart desire without any side effect.He told me what i need to do,After it was been done,In the next 2 days,My love called me on the phone and was saying sorry for living me before now and also in the next one week after my love called me to be pleading for forgiveness,I was called for interview in my desired company were i needed to work as the managing director..I am so happy and overwhelmed that i have to tell this to the entire world to contact DR ADAGBA at the following email address and get all your problem solve..No problem is too big for him to solve..Contact him direct on: adagbaspiritualtemple@yahoo.com. and get your problems asolve like me..... ONCE AGAIN HIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS: adagbaspiritualtemple@yahoo.com
ReplyDeleteI want to share my testimony out here, my husband just came back home and said there is no need for the divorce that he love me and my kids so much, With the help of a spell caster called Dr Okokhue, he is a great man, and we are happy with each other more and more now. if you need any help and you want to get your man back contact him on his email: reunionspelltemple01@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteI want to share my testimony out here, my husband just came back home and said there is no need for the divorce that he love me and my kids so much, With the help of a spell caster called Dr Okokhue, he is a great man, and we are happy with each other more and more now. if you need any help and you want to get your man back contact him on his email: reunionspelltemple01@gmail.com
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ReplyDeleteHello I just want to say thank you prophet OMOADONA for all He had done for me.He is back now. That very powerful spell caster STOPS THE DIVORCE and get my ex-boyfriend back. I never believed in love Spells or magic until i met this spell caster once when i went for a business summit Last month. I meant a man whose name is PROPHET OMOADONA He is really powerful and could help cast spells to bring back one's gone,Love, misbehaving lover and magic money spell or spell for a good job or Luck spell .I’m now happy & a living testimony cause the man i had wanted to Marry left me 3 weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down because our Relationship has been on for 3years. I really loved him, but his mother was Against us and he had no good paying job. So when i met this spell caster, i Told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him. At First i was undecided, skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. And in 7 days when i returned to Canada, my boyfriend(now husband) called me by Himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his Mother and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married. I Didn’t believe it cause the spell caste only asked for my name and my Boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do. Well we are happily married now And we are expecting our little kid, and my husband also got the new job and Our lives became much better.in case you are in any situation you can contact Prophet OMOADONA at his email dradanikesolutionhome@outlook.com
I am MARIS JOS from USA,i hear how people are talking about The powerful spell caster called DR TRUST in regard of how he bring back ex lover,winning lottery,getting pregnant and getting married to their dream true lover and i also contact him to help me cast a spell in regard of my ex lover whom i love so much that left me 2yrs ago,but today my ex is back to me and we are happily married with 3kids and i am so much happy for the help i found in you DR TRUST. I and my family are very much happy and we are living large now,i am grateful and appreciate your good work of spell casting,thank you and may you leave long to help people in problems His email is Ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com call +2348156885231
ReplyDeleteI am MARIS JOS from USA,i hear how people are talking about The powerful spell caster called DR TRUST in regard of how he bring back ex lover,winning lottery,getting pregnant and getting married to their dream true lover and i also contact him to help me cast a spell in regard of my ex lover whom i love so much that left me 2yrs ago,but today my ex is back to me and we are happily married with 3kids and i am so much happy for the help i found in you DR TRUST. I and my family are very much happy and we are living large now,i am grateful and appreciate your good work of spell casting,thank you and may you leave long to help people in problems His email is Ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com call +2348156885231
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ReplyDeleteAn amazing testimony on a spell caster who brought my wife back to me.
My name is jim Rivas ,i live in United Kingdom,and I’m happily married
to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids. A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife. so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce. she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she didn’t love me anymore So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get her back,after much begging,but all to no avail and she confirmed it that she has made her decision,and she never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my wife So i explained every thing to her,so she told me that the only way i can get my wife back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for her too So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than o follow her advice. Then she gave me the email address of the spell caster whom she visited.{pepokolovespell@gmail.com}. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address she gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my wife back the next day What an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my wife who didn’t call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that she was coming back So Amazing!! So that was how she came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and she apologized for her mistake,and for the pain she caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster. So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the same website {pepokolovespell@gmail.com},if”>{pepokolovespll@gmail.com},if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to “bringing your ex back. So thanks to the Dr Pepoko for bringing back my wife,and brought great joy to my family once again. {pepokolovespell@gmail.com},
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