Saturday, February 15, 2014

Sue Rubin on Medical Futility

If you are near the San Francisco Bay Area, check out Sue Rubin on March 13, 2014 at Community Hospice in Modesto.  She is leading a two-hour program and dinner on "How to Approach Medical 'Futility' Cases."

























6 comments:

Carol Cross said...

Why is a Hospice organization sponsoring a lecture/dinner on Medical Futility?

How much does this dinner cost and will Sue Rubin be paid out of the proceeds of the tickets for the dinner to speak about Medical Futility and the "ethics" of "Medical Futility."

Is Sue Rubin qualified to talk about the legal aspects of Medical Futility as well as the ethical concerns?

Have I missed something? Have the Courts and the Executive cleared up the "medical futility" problem when I wasn't looking?

What is "this new paradigm for Medical Futility" and what does it mean when Susan Robin says "Who is saying "no" now? I'm sure she must be talking about CMS and private insurance who have been saying "No" for many years now.

I'm beginning to think that "medical futility" is just a huge red herring that generates millions of dollars for the bioethicists while diverting the attention of the public from "fiscal futility" which is the actual problem for the physicians, hospital, and the patient.

When hospitals/physicians are NOT reimbursed by CMS and private insurance for non beneficial over treatment, mistakes, errors, exceeding the DRG Caps, why is "medical futility" such a big deal that never gets solved?

As you have said, Professor Pope, only 5% of futility cases are NOT solved in the hospital by the parties involved. The illusion, however, that is created is that "medical futility" is a huge problem for the hospitals and that patients demand "futile" treatment against their physicians' best advice. This, of course, is not true. Medical futility disputes that go beyond the hospital are rare.

From the viewpoint of patients, the unilateral DNRs, covert and overt(default) in their hospital charts when their treatment is NOT reimbursed is the biggest problem ---that they are unaware of because so often they are dead.

Carol Cross said...

Why is a Hospice organization sponsoring a lecture/dinner on Medical Futility?

How much does this dinner cost and will Sue Rubin be paid out of the proceeds of the tickets for the dinner to speak about Medical Futility and the "ethics" of "Medical Futility."

Is Sue Rubin qualified to talk about the legal aspects of Medical Futility as well as the ethical concerns?

Have I missed something? Have the Courts and the Executive cleared up the "medical futility" problem when I wasn't looking?

What is "this new paradigm for Medical Futility" and what does it mean when Susan Robin says "Who is saying "no" now? I'm sure she must be talking about CMS and private insurance who have been saying "No" for many years now.

I'm beginning to think that "medical futility" is just a huge red herring that generates millions of dollars for the bioethicists while diverting the attention of the public from "fiscal futility" which is the actual problem for the physicians, hospital, and the patient.

When hospitals/physicians are NOT reimbursed by CMS and private insurance for non beneficial over treatment, mistakes, errors, exceeding the DRG Caps, why is "medical futility" such a big deal that never gets solved?

As you have said, Professor Pope, only 5% of futility cases are NOT solved in the hospital by the parties involved. The illusion, however, that is created is that "medical futility" is a huge problem for the hospitals and that patients demand "futile" treatment against their physicians' best advice. This, of course, is not true. Medical futility disputes that go beyond the hospital are rare.

From the viewpoint of patients, the unilateral DNRs, covert and overt(default) in their hospital charts when their treatment is NOT reimbursed is the biggest problem ---that they are unaware of because so often they are dead.

Carol Cross said...

Why is a Hospice organization sponsoring a lecture/dinner on Medical Futility?

How much does this dinner cost and will Sue Rubin be paid out of the proceeds of the tickets for the dinner to speak about Medical Futility and the "ethics" of "Medical Futility."

Is Sue Rubin qualified to talk about the legal aspects of Medical Futility as well as the ethical concerns?

Have I missed something? Have the Courts and the Executive cleared up the "medical futility" problem when I wasn't looking?

What is "this new paradigm for Medical Futility" and what does it mean when Susan Robin says "Who is saying "no" now? I'm sure she must be talking about CMS and private insurance who have been saying "No" for many years now.

I'm beginning to think that "medical futility" is just a huge red herring that generates millions of dollars for the bioethicists while diverting the attention of the public from "fiscal futility" which is the actual problem for the physicians, hospital, and the patient.

When hospitals/physicians are NOT reimbursed by CMS and private insurance for non beneficial over treatment, mistakes, errors, exceeding the DRG Caps, why is "medical futility" such a big deal that never gets solved?

As you have said, Professor Pope, only 5% of futility cases are NOT solved in the hospital by the parties involved. The illusion, however, that is created is that "medical futility" is a huge problem for the hospitals and that patients demand "futile" treatment against their physicians' best advice. This, of course, is not true. Medical futility disputes that go beyond the hospital are rare.

From the viewpoint of patients, the unilateral DNRs, covert and overt(default) in their hospital charts when their treatment is NOT reimbursed is the biggest problem ---that they are unaware of because so often they are dead.

Carol Cross said...

Why is a Hospice organization sponsoring a lecture/dinner on Medical Futility?

How much does this dinner cost and will Sue Rubin be paid out of the proceeds of the tickets for the dinner to speak about Medical Futility and the "ethics" of "Medical Futility."

Is Sue Rubin qualified to talk about the legal aspects of Medical Futility as well as the ethical concerns?

Have I missed something? Have the Courts and the Executive cleared up the "medical futility" problem when I wasn't looking?

What is "this new paradigm for Medical Futility" and what does it mean when Susan Robin says "Who is saying "no" now? I'm sure she must be talking about CMS and private insurance who have been saying "No" for many years now.

I'm beginning to think that "medical futility" is just a huge red herring that generates millions of dollars for the bioethicists while diverting the attention of the public from "fiscal futility" which is the actual problem for the physicians, hospital, and the patient.

When hospitals/physicians are NOT reimbursed by CMS and private insurance for non beneficial over treatment, mistakes, errors, exceeding the DRG Caps, why is "medical futility" such a big deal that never gets solved?

As you have said, Professor Pope, only 5% of futility cases are NOT solved in the hospital by the parties involved. The illusion, however, that is created is that "medical futility" is a huge problem for the hospitals and that patients demand "futile" treatment against their physicians' best advice. This, of course, is not true. Medical futility disputes that go beyond the hospital are rare.

From the viewpoint of patients, the unilateral DNRs, covert and overt(default) in their hospital charts when their treatment is NOT reimbursed is the biggest problem ---that they are unaware of because so often they are dead and the mattet is moot. .

Carol Cross said...

Why is a Hospice organization sponsoring a lecture/dinner on Medical Futility?

How much does this dinner cost and will Sue Rubin be paid out of the proceeds of the tickets for the dinner to speak about Medical Futility and the "ethics" of "Medical Futility."

Is Sue Rubin qualified to talk about the legal aspects of Medical Futility as well as the ethical concerns?

Have I missed something? Have the Courts and the Executive cleared up the "medical futility" problem when I wasn't looking?

What is "this new paradigm for Medical Futility" and what does it mean when Susan Robin says "Who is saying "no" now? I'm sure she must be talking about CMS and private insurance who have been saying "No" for many years now.

I'm beginning to think that "medical futility" is just a huge red herring that generates millions of dollars for the bioethicists while diverting the attention of the public from "fiscal futility" which is the actual problem for the physicians, hospital, and the patient.

When hospitals/physicians are NOT reimbursed by CMS and private insurance for non beneficial over treatment, mistakes, errors, exceeding the DRG Caps, why is "medical futility" such a big deal that never gets solved?

As you have said, Professor Pope, only 5% of futility cases are NOT solved in the hospital by the parties involved. The illusion, however, that is created is that "medical futility" is a huge problem for the hospitals and that patients demand "futile" treatment against their physicians' best advice. This, of course, is not true. Medical futility disputes that go beyond the hospital are rare.

From the viewpoint of patients, the unilateral DNRs, covert and overt(default) in their hospital charts when their treatment is NOT reimbursed is the biggest problem ---that they are unaware of because so often they are already dead and the mattet is moot.

Carol Cross said...

Why is a Hospice organization sponsoring a lecture/dinner on Medical Futility?

How much does this dinner cost and will Sue Rubin be paid out of the proceeds of the tickets for the dinner to speak about Medical Futility and the "ethics" of "Medical Futility."

Is Sue Rubin qualified to talk about the legal aspects of Medical Futility as well as the ethical concerns?

Have I missed something? Have the Courts and the Executive cleared up the "medical futility" problem when I wasn't looking?

What is "this new paradigm for Medical Futility" and what does it mean when Susan Robin says "Who is saying "no" now? I'm sure she must be talking about CMS and private insurance who have been saying "No" for many years now.

I'm beginning to think that "medical futility" is just a huge red herring that generates millions of dollars for the bioethicists while diverting the attention of the public from "fiscal futility" which is the actual problem for the physicians, hospital, and the patient.

When hospitals/physicians are NOT reimbursed by CMS and private insurance for non beneficial over treatment, mistakes, errors, exceeding the DRG Caps, why is "medical futility" such a big deal that never gets solved?

As you have said, Professor Pope, only 5% of futility cases are NOT solved in the hospital by the parties involved. The illusion, however, that is created is that "medical futility" is a huge problem for the hospitals and that patients demand "futile" treatment against their physicians' best advice. This, of course, is not true. Medical futility disputes that go beyond the hospital are rare.

From the viewpoint of patients, the unilateral DNRs, covert and overt(default) in their hospital charts when their treatment is NOT reimbursed is the biggest problem ---that they are unaware of because so often they are already dead and the mattet is moot.